"What do you think the lottery chances are for Ironman Hawaii?"

If I join the Passport club, my chances of being selected are:

How many Passport club applicants do you think there were Hawaii 2000? (enter a number).

How many people applied for Hawaii 2000 but were not members of the Passport club? (enter a number)

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The answer . . .

Using the number of lottery applications for the 2000 race as a guide, the probabilities turn out to be higher (i.e. better) thanexpected:

    about 9% (if you applied as a member of the Passportclub)

    about 3% (if you applied but not as a member of thePassport club)


Details (for those interested in the math):

There are 150 lottery slots available (for our purposes, this applies to US based applications).

100 are given to Passport club members at a first drawing. The other 50 slotsat a second drawing are drawn from a pool of non-Passport members and Passportmembers that weren't among the 100 selected in the first round.

So, if you're a Passport club member, you have a chance at being selectedduring the first drawing. The probability is P(A) = 100 / x, where "x"indicates the number of Passport club applicants. If you're not selected at thattime then you still have a chance in the second drawing. This probability is P(B)= 50 /((x-100) + y) , where "y" indicates the number ofnon-Passport club applicants.  Mathematically, Passport club members have aprobability of being selected as  P(AorB) = P(A) + P(B).

If you're not a Passport club member, your chances are equal to P(B).

Based on reported information from the WTC for year 2000, there were 1650 Passport clubapplicants, and 150 non-Passport club applicants. So, the probabilitiesof being selected are. . .

P(AorB)= 100/x + 50/((x-100)+y)

            =100/1650 + 50/((1650-100)+150)

            = .06 +.029 = .089

and P(B) = .029